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that obama care we saw passed a couple of years ago is the beginning of full-blown government take over. >> it is unlikely that the public option will happen. i will jump on the idea of funky mathematics for a second. this 100 billion plus number that is thrown around is from a cvo report . then in 2010, the number was 68 billion dollars . yeah, two different programs and that is a big issue with the public option. there is so many ifs and whether it would make money or lose money and whether subsidies would be involved. >> mike, when government takes something over, doesn't it get more expensive and burrcratic than it was in the private sector? >> this is what happened with other countries that tried universal health care. canada, you can wait for a year for knee surgery . go to amtrak run by the government they are bankrupt without a big subsidy . you look at obama care. costs has risen dramatically and in the past year it is implemented. >>> and wind power. for example, we got into wind power and it costs more to get energy from wind power than it did and going back to medicare . loo
that obama care we saw passed a couple of years ago is the beginning of full-blown government take over. >> it is unlikely that the public option will happen. i will jump on the idea of funky mathematics for a second. this 100 billion plus number that is thrown around is from a cvo report . then in 2010, the number was 68 billion dollars . yeah, two different programs and that is a big issue with the public option. there is so many ifs and whether it would make money or lose money and...
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. 67% in the polls four years ago. 18 point decline from that. the way that he is operating is not designed to make him more popular and bring the country together. >> now, one of the people that is thought to be a competitor to the democrats in the next presidential election is governor chris christie of new jersey. recently the nra took out an add saying that president obama is a hypocrite because he sends his children to school protected by armed guards and that he doesn't want armed guards at other schools. christie didn't like that ad by the nra and said this. >> don't be dragging people's children into this. it's wrong. and i think it demeans them. and it makes them less of a valid, trusted source of information on the real issues that confront this debate. >> so what did you think? >> well, a reasonable objection to the nra, remember, he is from new jersey, a blue state. he has got to get reelected this year. and he has a legitimate beef with the ad. i frankly think the underlying point of the nra ad accurate one. there is is elite in amer
. 67% in the polls four years ago. 18 point decline from that. the way that he is operating is not designed to make him more popular and bring the country together. >> now, one of the people that is thought to be a competitor to the democrats in the next presidential election is governor chris christie of new jersey. recently the nra took out an add saying that president obama is a hypocrite because he sends his children to school protected by armed guards and that he doesn't want armed...
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he's got four years and if the unemployment gets worth again, there's no growth incentives in the obama agenda, it's going to start eroding the popularity and leaning on him as he tries to achieve the social revolution. >> paul: from the journal, the political analyst, wrote this week that the president is likely to be more aggressive and he predicted it, because there's assumption in the white house that they now have essentially a real liberal majority in the country, that his coalition that showed up on election day is such that they don't need to the way that bill clinton did losing conservative voters, particularly swing voters anymore, because they have a new coalition and that's driving the president to say, look, we can satisfy these long-term pentup liberal demands and you see that as true? >> i would argue that that analysis is probably the best way of looking at this president and understanding what he's doing. democratic presidents in the past, you've looked at bill clinton, they understood and they believed there was a real benefit to being somewhat in the middle, centrist
he's got four years and if the unemployment gets worth again, there's no growth incentives in the obama agenda, it's going to start eroding the popularity and leaning on him as he tries to achieve the social revolution. >> paul: from the journal, the political analyst, wrote this week that the president is likely to be more aggressive and he predicted it, because there's assumption in the white house that they now have essentially a real liberal majority in the country, that his coalition...
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at the height of the economic crisis three years ago, president obama announced a 26 member jobs council as a way to get leaders and great business minds together to fix the jobs crisis. if 21 million americans still unemployed or underemployed, why hasn't this group held an official meeting in more than a year? good question. and for some answers let's bring in our political panel angela mcglowan, and a former chief of staff to joe manchin. it boggles the mind, the president with a jobs council the last year january, 2012. unemployment tad, angela and chris, 8.5% and now fallen to 7.8%, but while it's a good thing it's falling, there are till 21 million unemployed so unemployment has not fallen far enough. the light bulb has to go off. what progress is the job council making when creating more jobs? >> it's not made much progress and are we surprised that the president has not met with his jobs council in one year? this administration has been about political gesture, political manipulation, blame games, but what has really been done? kelly, remember in 2009 he appointed like 32 czar. w
at the height of the economic crisis three years ago, president obama announced a 26 member jobs council as a way to get leaders and great business minds together to fix the jobs crisis. if 21 million americans still unemployed or underemployed, why hasn't this group held an official meeting in more than a year? good question. and for some answers let's bring in our political panel angela mcglowan, and a former chief of staff to joe manchin. it boggles the mind, the president with a jobs...
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president obama, the biggest spending chief executive in history. so, i have to play paul revere here. i have to continue to tell you the truth. i also believe many americans simply will not listen. and even worse, they are not smart enough, not smart enough to even care. disaster could be coming. that's the memo. now for the top story tonight. another point of view. joining us from new york city, fox business anchor lou dobbs. lou, according to a "wall street journal" poll, president obama's approval rating is at 52%. what do you think of about b. that. >> first of all inexplicable. man who has raised taxes on just about everybody. has run up 4 consecutive trillion-dollar federal budget deficits in his first term. he has an economy that is not being returned to prosperity. 23 million people still unemployed. we have, i think bill. i think if i may. you undersell folks just a little bit in that i think everybody is smart enough to know there is is a problem. i think everybody is pretty much smart enough to know that we have got to come up with a sol
president obama, the biggest spending chief executive in history. so, i have to play paul revere here. i have to continue to tell you the truth. i also believe many americans simply will not listen. and even worse, they are not smart enough, not smart enough to even care. disaster could be coming. that's the memo. now for the top story tonight. another point of view. joining us from new york city, fox business anchor lou dobbs. lou, according to a "wall street journal" poll, president...
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. >> what a difference four years made. we'll look at president obama then and now right after the break. do you make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it.
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>> you know, if you think back four years ago, the country was full of hope. it was a real celebration. it was an historic moment. we were maturitying our first african-american president. there was a sense that they were on the verge of a great time of hope. things are definitely different now. we've got a divided country. it's a less historic moment. we got a lot of folks still looking for jobs and can't find them. we've got partisan politics and a paralyzed congress. and i think the president faces a real challenge of trying to unite americans, trying to move beyond the partisan divide, trying to communicate with those who didn't vote for him that he understands that he's also their president. >> arthel: with that laundry list of hurdles and in mind, it is a laundry list and you highlighted them quite well, but here is the deal w that in mind, is president obama's second inaugural speech a bigger challenge then than the first one? >> absolutely. the funny part is, i can't remember a single line from his first inaugural address. but i can remember how i felt
>> you know, if you think back four years ago, the country was full of hope. it was a real celebration. it was an historic moment. we were maturitying our first african-american president. there was a sense that they were on the verge of a great time of hope. things are definitely different now. we've got a divided country. it's a less historic moment. we got a lot of folks still looking for jobs and can't find them. we've got partisan politics and a paralyzed congress. and i think the...
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in his if you are four years. some say that administration overspent by one trillion a year every year since he's been in office. now she demanding the get ceiling to be increased again. do you think he will be listen to the 69% that say only after major cuts? >> he already said he doesn't think anything should be tied to the debt ceiling. it's something you shouldn't play with the full faith and credit of the united states. what is interesting about this, coming out of the republican retreat that just occurred, there are some republicans within the republican house, republican caucus who actually agree with him on the sense that you don't play with the debt ceiling as the point to which to make cuts. there are other issues coming up like the continuing resolution and sequester cuts where they would like to make their last stand there for cutting getting spending cuts and allow on temporary extension without not much attached to it. >> heather: let's talk about the economy. the president starts his new term. less
in his if you are four years. some say that administration overspent by one trillion a year every year since he's been in office. now she demanding the get ceiling to be increased again. do you think he will be listen to the 69% that say only after major cuts? >> he already said he doesn't think anything should be tied to the debt ceiling. it's something you shouldn't play with the full faith and credit of the united states. what is interesting about this, coming out of the republican...
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. >> the officials are downplaying the fact that they have not met in a year, saying that the president has found a lot of other ways to have outreach to business leaders. >> white house officials are now saying that president obama is receiving regular updates on the situation, which remain, as you say, ongoing and sensitive. >> this is an act of terror. the perpetrators are the terrorists. >> counter terrorism officials we have spoken to in the last 24 hours say they have never seen a more hazy situation. >> i think after the failures of benghazi, you are seeing al qaeda, splipters of al qaeda rearing their ugly head in northern africa, where that will be the new front in the war on terrorism. >> the united states does not negotiate with terrorists. >> terrorists should be on notice that they will find no sanctuary, no refuge, not in algeria, not in north africa, not anywhere. >> all that and much more coming up. but first, manti ta'o's other girlfriend, living and breathing. tmz posting photos with a girl he started dated shortly after the death of his fake girlfriend. dating her two
. >> the officials are downplaying the fact that they have not met in a year, saying that the president has found a lot of other ways to have outreach to business leaders. >> white house officials are now saying that president obama is receiving regular updates on the situation, which remain, as you say, ongoing and sensitive. >> this is an act of terror. the perpetrators are the terrorists. >> counter terrorism officials we have spoken to in the last 24 hours say they...
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. >> the officials here are down playing the fact that they have not met in a year by saying that the the president has found a lot of other ways to have outreach to business leaders. >> the white house officials are now saying that president obama is receiving regular updates on the situation which remains, as you say, ongoing, and sensitive. >> this is an act of terror. the perpetrators are the terrorists. >> counterterrorism officials say they've never seen a more hazy situation. >> i think after benghazi, you're seeing al-qaeda, al-qaeda, rearing their ugly head in north after rica. >> and the united states does not negotiate with terrorists. >> terrorists should be on notice they will find no sanctuary, no refuge, not in algeria, not in north africa, not anywhere. >> greta: all that and much more coming up minutes, but first, manti te'o's other girlfriend. this one living and breathing. tmz posted new photos showing manti with a girl he started dating shortly after the death of his fake girlfriend and reportedly dated the st. mary's college student two months before breaking up w
. >> the officials here are down playing the fact that they have not met in a year by saying that the the president has found a lot of other ways to have outreach to business leaders. >> the white house officials are now saying that president obama is receiving regular updates on the situation which remains, as you say, ongoing, and sensitive. >> this is an act of terror. the perpetrators are the terrorists. >> counterterrorism officials say they've never seen a more...
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of course it's been raised every year. the majority of you said only after major cuts are put in place. 69%. yes, it would be reckless not to raise the debt ceiling. >> which of course is president obama's position, 23% one there because he says this is like we have run up our credit card bill. this is like not paying your credit card bill. we have already spent that money so you have to raise the debt ceiling. some people say stop the madness. whatever the repercussions are stop it, cap it now. if we have to default we will. maybe we can skirt default somehow. seem like majority of respondents feel that way. >> 83% say spending is out of control. of that wonder i wonder how many have idea how big the debt is 16. it doesn't matter in absolute dollars this is the biggest debt that's ever existed and our credited rating has been down graded as a result of it? >> i remember as a kid i don't know elementary school or junior high when bewere talking about the debt it was something like 4 trillion. and our teachers asked us to w
of course it's been raised every year. the majority of you said only after major cuts are put in place. 69%. yes, it would be reckless not to raise the debt ceiling. >> which of course is president obama's position, 23% one there because he says this is like we have run up our credit card bill. this is like not paying your credit card bill. we have already spent that money so you have to raise the debt ceiling. some people say stop the madness. whatever the repercussions are stop it, cap...